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Elders accuse us of Mail Fraud
by inbyathread inwell the sh*t has finally hit the fan now.
it seems that several families in the neillsville / marshfield area have received packages with apostatetm material enclosed.
at the service meeting last thursday night in two (count them) two congregations the elders have announced that a mail fraud scheme is in the area with packages arriving at publishers homes.
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Why wouldn't they reinstate them?
by hamsterbait ini am just thinking about all those df over issues which are now notorious for flip flopping.. when the wt has to change on the 607 thing - that is coming up i am sure - will those who disagreed with 607 be reinstated without further ado?.
does anybody know of people df for taking transplants who are reinstated now after the flop, or would it be a flip?.
when the now obviously imploding blood policy finally changes, how likely are those shunned for having a transfusion to be forgiven without them being the ones who have to grovel to the reptiles in brothel?.
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Will Power
I am not a jw.
When I asked an elder this question..... Hypothetically speaking.... Back in 1975, say I did not believe that the world was going to end in that year, and I did nothing to pick up the pace, or I refused to push the extreme urgency of the end of the world, using only the bible as my preaching tool. Therefore I was DF'd and my marriage and family fell apart, lost my business and all my friends thru the shunning policy. After the world DID NOT end, would you go back and fix my family? find all my friends, put my business back together? Restore my reputation for being in the TRUTHâ„¢?
His answer?
well, no, most likely the person would not want to come back. As for df'ing in the first place, loyalty to the organization is more important (than the truth)
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Certainty, truth, and the JW's
by Check_Your_Premises inpardon me while i think out loud.
this is kind of half baked.
to know truth is perhaps the most illusive and yet most important things.
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yikes! I should've spell checked!
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Certainty, truth, and the JW's
by Check_Your_Premises inpardon me while i think out loud.
this is kind of half baked.
to know truth is perhaps the most illusive and yet most important things.
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Will Power
((cyp))
did you read this one?
The Myth of Certainty, by Daniel Taylor - The Reflective Christian & the Risk of Commitment.
pg 20
Being reflective is both a blessing and a curse.... can lead equally well toward truth or error. Life can be richer, more textured, more challenging, more meaningful. Likewise, it can become more barren, more threatening, more overwhelming.
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The more one tries to restrict it [reflection], the more power one gives it; for reflection is suspicious of nothing so much as attempts to quell it. It may lie low for a time, but will blaze back all the fiercer for having been suppressed.
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When people defend their world view, they are not defending reason, or God, or an abstract system; they are defending their own fragile sense of security and self-respect.
pg 80
Ironically, the instance on certainty destroys its very possibility. The demand for cerainty inevitable creates its opposite - doubt. Doubt derives its greatest strength from those who fear it most. Unwisely glorified as the primary way to truth by many secularists, it is equally unwisely feared by many in Christendom as truth's mortal enemy.
p 133
How sad to have one's eternal relationship with God threatened by ways of thinking which may not even last a decade, much less a generation...... We are responsible to work out our salvation in our time, in the midst of our culture, not in some other time or place...
Kierkegarrd:
First & foremost, no impatience... A direct attack only strengthens a person in his illusion, and at the same time embitters him. There is nothing that requires such gentle handling as an illusion, if one wishes to dispel it. If anything prompts the prospective captive to set his will in opposition, all is lost... The indirect method... loving and serving the truth, arranges everything.... and then shyly withdraws (for love is always shy), so as not to witness the admission which he makes to himself alone before God - that he has lived hitherto in an illusion.
Are we both going thru some cycle?
my head hurts too.
maybe you need a vacation!
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UBMs - why do we love JWs??
by Super_Becka ini think there's been a thread on this before, but i figured i'd ask again.. for all of the ubms out there, why is it that we love witnesses??
what is it about them that we find so attractive??
why are we putting ourselves through this mess when we know full-well that there are lots of non-jws out there who would be better for us??.
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Will Power
One thing is for sure - the life of a labelled UBM is emotionally exhausting.
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UBMs - why do we love JWs??
by Super_Becka ini think there's been a thread on this before, but i figured i'd ask again.. for all of the ubms out there, why is it that we love witnesses??
what is it about them that we find so attractive??
why are we putting ourselves through this mess when we know full-well that there are lots of non-jws out there who would be better for us??.
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UBMs - why do we love JWs??
by Super_Becka ini think there's been a thread on this before, but i figured i'd ask again.. for all of the ubms out there, why is it that we love witnesses??
what is it about them that we find so attractive??
why are we putting ourselves through this mess when we know full-well that there are lots of non-jws out there who would be better for us??.
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Will Power
(((cyp)))
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UBMs - why do we love JWs??
by Super_Becka ini think there's been a thread on this before, but i figured i'd ask again.. for all of the ubms out there, why is it that we love witnesses??
what is it about them that we find so attractive??
why are we putting ourselves through this mess when we know full-well that there are lots of non-jws out there who would be better for us??.
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Will Power
Remember, love is blind! Its supposed to happen that way (or there'd be alot of ugly singles??)
Remember too, your new BF's biological parents aren't the only "in-laws" who'll be sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.
which might be more of what Jgnat was alluding too???
and CYPs comments - he, like many of us living this UBM life daily and believe me, its a struggle.
when asked for advice?
for me sometimes ....
It's like wondering how & why kids start smoking these days.
Are they beginning a life long battle with nicotine? will they only be wkd smokers? will they die of cancer?
You might think this is a harsh way of putting it, and I don't mean to compare a relationship with a person to a relationship with a drug or a bad habit, but when the armegeddon seeds are planted by the masters of deception you never know when they will rear their ugly head. If EVERYTHING is not out on the table from the get-go there will be trouble.
on the flip side - don't listen to me, love and romance are my weakness, and everyone deserves to love & be loved.
Good luck.
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I NEED YOUR HELP WITH LAWSUIT AGAINST THE WATCHTOWER
by SHUNNED FATHER ini need your help to continue my lawsuit against the watchtower society and the doctor who the watchtower society arranged for to give my daughter arsenic.
the wts lawyer, hlc members and the doctor deceived bethany and lied to her, convincing her that arsenic would cure her.
bethany was convinced that arsenic could cure her and was curing her.
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Will Power
Eduardo made a point.... about how a non-jw lawyer found Bethany mature enough to make her own decisions.
A non-JW wouldn't know about the indoctrination tactics of this dangerous high control group.
on the surface all JWs seem of sound mind, intelligent, logical etc. (as most all people do)
however the control the WT possesses is so invasive, the cogitive dissonance can reduce the
strongest example of character to a sad "loyalty to the organization is more important than the truth"
even to their death.
It starts with being afraid to eat a Hot Cross Bun, hit a piniata, express genuine love, care for a loved one .......
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I NEED YOUR HELP WITH LAWSUIT AGAINST THE WATCHTOWER
by SHUNNED FATHER ini need your help to continue my lawsuit against the watchtower society and the doctor who the watchtower society arranged for to give my daughter arsenic.
the wts lawyer, hlc members and the doctor deceived bethany and lied to her, convincing her that arsenic would cure her.
bethany was convinced that arsenic could cure her and was curing her.
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Will Power
I will send what I can. Your cause has a following (almost everyone I know, that knows what I know) I'll put the word out.
Have you contacted Kerry Louderback-Wood, Baylor University regarding the Tort of Misrepresentation?
PM if you like.
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